My next guest is Chris Widener. He is a Member of the Motivational Speakers Hall of Fame, one of Inc. Magazine’s Top 100 Leadership Speakers, was named one of the Top 50 Speakers in the World, and is a New York Times and Wall Street Journal Bestselling author (he has written 20 books). And he is a businessman, coach, and mentor. Chris is even a Washington State native and his brother was a firefighter in Eastern Washington for 39 years. I probably spilled beer on him somewhere along the line.

In this episode we talk about The Real Man Podcast which he hosts with another fascinating fellow Larry Winget, current COVID events, values, optimism, leadership, and more. I am grateful to have him on the show.

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